Do the black gold shafts compare at all to the x7 and tour issue (weight sorted)? timestamp='1355716836' post='6079379'] [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355714377' post='6079129'] We test the four most popular low launching steel iron shafts on the market, blind, to see how they compare when the player has no idea which shaft is which . You can find x200/x300 shafts on eBay for like 50-70 bucks per set. Driver:Titleist TSR4 9.0 (C2 Setting) VA Composites Drago X 65 45 inFairway Wood:Titleist TSR2 15 (A1 Setting) Project X EvenFlow White 75 6.5Hybrid:Titleist TS3 19 (A1 Setting) HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 6.5Irons:Titleist T200 3 Iron HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 90 6.5, Titleist T200 4 & 5 (Std) Project X 6.5, Titleist T100 6-9(Std) Project X 6.5Wedges:Titleist Vokey SM9 46F, 50F (Std) 56D (Bent to 55), 60M (1 Degree Flat);All Jet Black, Project X 6.5 in 46 & 50, Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 in 56 & 60Putter:Titleist Scotty Cameron Special Select Jet Black Newport 2 34 in; Titleist Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5+ 33.5 in.Ball: Titleist Pro V1X Left DashBag: Titleist LinksLegend Black Stand Bag or Nike Air Sport Stand Bag (All Black) timestamp='1355712569' post='6078973'] Know anywhere else that's cheaper? Join InsideGOLF for only $20 - includes instant $20 Fairway Jockey credit! [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355718783' post='6079509'] [/quote] They were noticeably firm, and launched low, but overall the feel was really nice and the performance was manageable. [/quote] You can't even play. I've never had any issue spinning anything so I thought I'd give them a shot. [quote name='chiva' timestamp='1355728871' post='6079885'] I'd love to try X7, but reality is telling me that my next set will have 7.0s. Top 100 Courses in the U.S.: GOLFs all-new 2022-23 ranking is here! Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. I've hit them all very close to each other. if people are paying that they need to shop around in this economy..can save alot of cash! The stiffest shafts are Nippon Modus 3 130 X and Dynamic Gold X100 X7. Wow, so the X7's are 400, plus about 25 a club to get installed with a grip X 8 clubs = $600. Lol Sorry buddy, but theres no room for that nonsense here! To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. DW actually told me there isn't a stiffer shaft to be found, but the x7's are performers. Dam, 4 bills? I hope I can get dialed in soon! [/quote] Feel wise, it's almost like going from S200 to S400, they feel stiffer but not a crazy amount. I currently play x100's and personally have no experience with the X7's. Unless you have a really late release, they won't make any difference although they may feel good (or not). Ads are enabled on this website. I think it was Tom Wishon who said that, so the info should be pretty reliable. I think that is what they cost? Has nothing to do w/ how much ss you have or your loading ability. You could hardstep them in if you managed to find an extra wedge shaft. Tip an X-100 1" or 1.5". [/quote] My name is Al, I've been in the golfing world for about 15 years now. Its a steel shaft, my posts on this topic are simply to get people that think that a steel shaft is going to change launch and spin by so much that it's going to make any change in on course scoring or performance. For the S300 golfer, you may see slight distance increases and a higher ball flight because of the difference in shaft flex. Trajectory is the flight of the ball and the peak height that the ball reaches. Try everything and see what fits you. *Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc., or its affiliates. [b]Would you happen to know what names in the pro golf world play them? They are on par with the PX 7.0's in terms of firmness. [/quote] Let us know how you hit them! I have to track down some x7's now to try. They're in my 62s right now. SHAFT: I'm backing up everything Stage said. timestamp='1355707584' post='6078545'] Project X vs X100 or X7 - WRX Club Techs - Forums Dynamic Gold X-Seven (X7) Initial Thoughts - Forums X100's vs X7's - WRX Club Techs - Forums KBS C-Taper vs DG x7 vs Project X 7.0 - WRX Club Techs Cc kt qu khc . I hope I can get dialed in soon! If you are looking for a heavier golf shaft, then the X7 is better for you. Founder of Pure Distance Golf and theDrive 400 Swing-Speed Program. didn't go out and switch clubs and shafts as much as I could trying to chase something that wasn't there. True Temper's standard Dynamic Gold steel shaft. Titleist 917 D3 8.5* (C1), GD Tour AD IZ 7tx
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Ping Glide Stealth 50ss, 54ss, 60es. [/quote] They do not play as stiff as they are. Well I had the chance to swing on a monitor today and s300's are out! FT-9 TA Fubuki J 70x They were noticeably firm, and launched low, but overall the feel was really nice and the performance was manageable. The Dynamic Gold X100 would be a good choice for low handicap players with swing speeds between 88 and 95 MPH. No one is forcing you to post, comment or get involved. Your other post you wanted S300 short irons and now wanna jump into X7? Me and My Golf: Hole more putts by doing this! By when are the dynamic gold tours coming out? You are looking at less than a 1CPM increase. I just laugh at everyone who is scratch who think they are pretty good. Featuring constant weight technology in taper tip irons and descending weight technology in parallel tip irons. [/quote] It doesnt feel much heavier than other Dynamic Gold shafts weve tested; but then again, none of us are hypersensitive players. [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355716963' post='6079391'] [/quote] Like the Dynamic Gold X100, the X7 is a Tour Issue shaft from True Temper.. BTW, in hope the shafts work out. X7's are a very different breed. [/quote] [quote name='J.W.' When the word Tour is attached to a product, most recreational golfers immediately assume the club, ball or shaft has special powers that allow, say, Dustin Johnson to crank it 350 yards. Crazy huh? [/i] I have gamed the x100's in the past and have hit a set of irons with the X7's in them. The extra stiff option is mainly meant for players with higher swing speeds. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. [/quote] [/quote] For example, after recently switching to x100's, breaking par is only a couple of strokes away now. They were born out of the Black Gold series (TT first ever frequncy matched set) when players started asking TT if they could get a frequency matched set of DG's. Swinging in to out is so much easier when you do this! [/quote] The strength of this shaft is really outstanding. Thanks again! [quote name='J.W.' Try everything and see what fits you. My 6 iron swing speed was averaging 98, with a few over 100, so these shafts certainly aren't for everyone, but me they were. There is about a 12 gram difference between the X7 and X100. Tipping X-100 1/4" is not worth your time. HOCKEY. The most successful shaft in the history of golf, Dynamic Gold is a tour-weighted shaft that is designed for players seeking a penetrating ball flight with optimum control and accuracy. They launch slightly lower than X100s but spin a bunch less. If I had 4 bills lying around I would try them again. [/quote] [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355714317' post='6079127'] It's a great piece that has proven its efficiency in improving performance and feel. Tour Experience Golf is a club fitting studio located in Toronto, producing in-depth golf equipment videos featuring founder and master club fitter Ian Fraser. Read More Skip to the end of the images gallery Skip to the beginning of the images gallery Technology & Features MODERATE TEMPO This season I backed off in flex a little (not playing as much, and am as big as a house), but am working towards replacing all my shafts. That's quite a bit for a steel shaft change but its not a dramatic difference at the end of the day. Wow. [/quote] The x100's did what I wanted them to do 9 times out of ten. Because the weight can differ slightly during production and because Dynamic Gold is a weight-sorted product the standard stiff flex is broken out into three sub-flexes: S200 (127 grams), S300 (130 grams) and S400 (134 grams). These would fit someone with a really hard transition, wants to lower their ball flight over the X100s, or just likes really stout shafts. Just hitting outside. I'm the first to say it may be a swing fault first, but I wonder if equipment like the x7 would help support more consistancy and minimize the extra spin and higher than desirable launch I often get from my short irons. What do you game now out of curiosity? The length of a shaft plays a big role in speed and accuracy. Also, lower on both fronts than X200/X300. I don't know where my swing speed is right now - I am no slouch, but I am pretty sure it isn't consistently over 115 either. Had them and really liked them and like an idiot, got rid of them. timestamp='1355716836' post='6079379'] The ads and affiliate products on this website do not influence any of the editorial decisions made for the content of this site. [/quote] I know I know. They just feel a lot more solid and weighty through the hit and in transition. Continue with Recommended Cookies. They're in my 62s right now. You can find x200/x300 shafts on eBay for like 50-70 bucks per set. I'm more going off experience from club fitting hundreds of players, very rarely have I ever had a steel shaft change of a same/similar flex change spin by greater than 300 rpm of spin. I'll answer your last question first. You can differentiate the two models by their shaft bands and weight tolerances. I decided to look through these rules to figure out whether or not the X7 and X100 are legal. Hm, I wouldnt say I spin my x100's 'too much' but I do from time to time get more spin than I want with my mid-pw. [/b] That may help paint a picture of how they work based on a known swing, tempo and player in general. [quote name='CallawayLefty' timestamp='1355714457' post='6079137'] Mizuno M-Craft I Blue Ion 365g / Stability Shaft. I heard your tone in your previous comments and overlooked it for info. You've fit hundreds of players into x7's? I've only been playing for a yr n a half now and so far golf appears to be one sport where equipment has had such a directly large influence on my results. I know PX's are supposed to launch higher, but I'm having trouble believing something at FCM 7.5 lauches THAT high. After your first swing, you can feel how incredibly stiff and strong this shaft is. Copyright 2023 True Temper Sports. Dynamic Gold is notorious for having a pronounced weld seam/spine and the frequency slope will not be linear if they are not spined to compensate for the weld/spine. They launch slightly lower than X100s but spin a bunch less. I don't know where my swing speed is right now - I am no slouch, but I am pretty sure it isn't consistently over 115 either. I was just trying to help, sorry MadGolfer!!!!!! Wow. Then take the heads and the new shafts in and you saved yourself a good amt of money. What shafts do you currently play. I also didnt realize how expensive they were. In actuality, the difference is usually a slight shape or weight modification that only someone with a discerning eye of hypersensitive feel could pick up on. Thx. I would agree with that but the X7's are almost a full flex stiffer (6.7 in the X100 vs. 7.5 in the X7's). For example, after recently switching to x100's, breaking par is in sight. Hm, I wouldnt say I spin my x100's 'too much' but I do from time to time get more spin than I want with my mid-pw. To figure out whether or not the About the author! I never meant to call into question your qualifications or anything. I have not read anything that says the Tour Issue DG's are frequency sorted, can anyone provide any proof of this? I started posting on golf forums early on before I ever was in the position I am now and wish someone would have told me these things so I didn't go out and switch clubs and shafts as much as I could trying to chase something that wasn't there. That's a whole nuther thread. Clement: The secret to a proper and accurate in-to-out swing! [quote name='savoyspecial13' timestamp='1355699744' post='6077991'] Your email address will not be published. Honestly, I really liked the x7's. They are on par with the PX 7.0's in terms of firmness. (E.g., pulling a pw or 6i back to the fringe from pin high can be disheartening at times). Check out the video to learn what this means for your golf swing. DG Tours are exceptional. Butt: .600". Am a big fan of Project X Rifles. [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355711483' post='6078861'] Also, to answer Savoy's question about being able to still hit shots high and low- yep. Related Products. According to the USGA, both the X7 and X100 are considered legal to use in any casual, high-level amateur, or professional golf outings. Not true- if you read my posts, it is clear I'm not 'wanting' to play anything one day nor do I want to 'jump into' anything the next day. Same results for both of us- 7.0 highest. Scratch is like 10 times further away from a tour player than a 30 capper is from scratch. I'm more going off experience from club fitting hundreds of players, very rarely have I ever had a steel shaft change of a same/similar flex change spin by greater than 300 rpm of spin. That's quite a bit for a steel shaft change but its not a dramatic difference at the end of the day. Honestly, I really liked the x7's. You just have no idea. Scratch ain't s***. [/quote] I've played X-100's forever. It has a high bend point and would be great for mid tempo swingers. [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355695940' post='6077715'] No issues with that. What is WAY less? These guys are so full of crap its scary. C Taper (close 2nd) next then X7 as the lowest. X7 has the exact same step pattern, but the steps are much thicker, allowing for increased butt stiffness to go along with the stiff tip that has been the hallmark of the Dynamic series of shafts. Good luck! Unless you can honestly say that you launch X-100 too high and spin it too much, they won't be worth your money. Tip an X100 by 1.5 inches and you've got yourself a very stiff shaft. Some with 190 ball speed with a driver go from S300 to X100 and the spin change was 300-400 rpm's and this is a guy that can't keep it under 3000 with a driver. Now, on to comparisons. Another major difference between these two shafts is the length. [/quote] [/quote] Thanks for the reality check on tipping the x100's and saving me some time even thinking about it. Then again, True Tempers Dynamic Gold shaft is the most popular shaft in professional golf, so maybe I shouldnt be all that surprised. To keep shaft weights as close to identical as possible, True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue is measured to plus-or-minus half a gram, which is as tight as you can get with a steel shaft in the. I used to do long drive a few years ago. If I had 4 bills lying around I would try them again. The X7s are 20g heavier than these. Clement: How to smoke the golf ballwith your eyes closed, Clement: How to GENTLY hammer your drives 300 yards, Clement: Infallible release drill to add 30 yards to your drives. I've never had any issue spinning anything so I thought I'd give them a shot. Hope you find a great fit! I have to track down some x7's now to try. Modus 120 X is not really stiff for an X-shaft and is, for example, softer than the KBS C-Taper Lite 110 S or Project X 6.0. I think that is what they cost? You dont need to do LD to swing these though. They are on par with the PX 7.0's in terms of firmness. and have better logos on them? What is WAY less? The X100 version is 130-grams, extra-stiff. 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[/quote] I play the X7's but would not dream of playing x100 tipped 1.5 inches. Welcome to another edition of Fully Equipped, an interactive GOLF.com series in which our resident dimplehead (a.k.a., GOLFs managing editor of equipment, Jonathan Wall) fields your hard-hitting equipment questions. I know PX's are supposed to launch higher, but I'm having trouble believing something at FCM 7.5 lauches THAT high. Ask an Equipment Expert: Should I switch to graphite iron shafts to gain distance? . STEELFIBER FC90. This high-flex, tour weight shaft is designed for skilled players seeking a low, penetrating ball flight for optimum control and accuracy. The Dynamic Gold S400 is the standard stiff flex shaft of the True Temper collection. well assuming you get your old iron shafts pulled, from golfsmith it costs 19.99 + grip which is about 7 bucks, from golf galaxy it's 17 to install, about 4 to pull, 3 to put on a new grip, plus the 7 dollar grip. For most players, the Dynamic Gold X100 will be the perfect low spin, low launch shaft. They spun about 200-300 rpm less than X100 for me in a 6 iron. When I was in better shape and didn't have a kiddo! I heard your tone in your previous comments and overlooked it for info. [/quote] Display as a link instead, 2 [deleted] 1 yr. ago Maybe I would look at the swing before throwing $1000 at switching iron shafts 3 times. What Handicap Range Are They for? It really doesn't matter. This is for a set of Tour Issue Dynamic Gold Iron or Wedge Shafts As always everything we sell comes with a free gift, full warranty and a satisfaction guarantee. All fine shafts. I'll say this- the X7 absolutely launches lower and spins WAY less than the C Taper. However, longer shafts are generally hard to hit consistent shots with. Upload or insert images from URL. See What Members Are Saying! IMO having hit X7 enough you're not gonna all of a sudden bounce a short or mid iron forward now instead of ripping it back 20 feet to the fringe. On the putter side, Scotty Cameron creates Tour-only flatsticks out of high-end materials (German Stainless Steel) that cost far too much to mass-produce. Plus, you still have to spine them. I hope True Temper is spining the shafts before they apply the silk screen. And personally my favorite shaft out there! I have a [i]little. As the title says, I'm considering the 105TX MMT which weigh 113g. They spun about 200-300 rpm less than X100 for me in a 6 iron. I never got the feeling that the x7's weren't "do-able." [quote name='J.W.' I'm glad to hear you like the x7's and you have something you found that works for your game! [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355716718' post='6079367'] Let us know how you hit them! [/i] I have gamed the x100's in the past and have hit a set of irons with the X7's in them. They both have a low launch angle which means that they are designed for distance. before i ordered i got fitted again for the same x100 shaft. Seriously, I was. I have a [i]little. ENTER NOW! If you are in the market for a tour grade shaft then congratulations that probably means you are an accomplished player. PROJECT X. SHAWN'S NEW IRON SHAFTS | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue 120 X100 Shawn Clement's Wisdom in Golf Lessons 49K views 5 years ago KBS Tour and Nippon Modus Review Sydney Golf Tech 34K views 2 years ago. Its a steel shaft, my posts on this topic are simply to get people that think that a steel shaft is going to change launch and spin by so much that it's going to make any change in on course scoring or performance. That's quite a bit for a steel shaft change but its not a dramatic difference at the end of the day. It is the most successful shaft in the history of golf and still continues to dominate on professional tours each and every year. Generally I like heavier offerings. It comes in extra stiff flex and weighs 130 grams so its a nice mix of lightweight design and strength. The True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue shafts are available in two flexes and one weight category. C Taper (close 2nd) next then X7 as the lowest. IMO having hit X7 enough you're not gonna all of a sudden bounce a short or mid iron forward now instead of ripping it back 20 feet to the fringe. A player with a quicker backswing and more aggressive transition will have a faster tempo, while a player with a slower backswing and smoother transition will have a more deliberate tempo. Tipping an x-100 like that, screws up the dynamics of the shaft. Having played both combinations, the X-100 shaft tipped/hardstepped up to 2" is still nothing compared to the DG Tour (X7). A player who struggles with getting the ball in the air should look towards a higher trajectory shaft, while a player who struggles hitting the ball too high should look for a lower trajectory shaft. [quote name='driverwedge' timestamp='1355711483' post='6078861'] In terms of flex, both only offer the extra stiff option. Dynamic Golds came about because they weight sorted them to even closer tolerances. Whats the difference between True Temper Dynamic Gold and Dynamic Gold Tour Issue shafts? This is not the shaft you want to use with your driver. This season I backed off in flex a little (not playing as much, and am as big as a house), but am working towards replacing all my shafts. Tour Issue Dynamic Gold Iron Shafts. I contacted Costco customer service and asked about the Kirkland Wedges and One of the most famous PGA tournaments is the Masters which is played at Augusta National. if people are paying that they need to shop around in this economy..can save alot of cash! Did they make a difference for you? [quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1355714317' post='6079127'] True Temper Dynamic Gold X Seven By Russ Ryden, A Golf Digest America's 100 Best Clubfitter Fit2Score, Dallas Fort Worth, Texas What new product can a company offer to strong golfers when they already have two of the most popular shafts in play on the PGA tour, the Dynamic Gold X100 and the Project X?
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