Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. Uh, the root of all evil is Chris Watts. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. CW's sister Jamie Throughout all my reading of the case I've never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SW's fb). It was very obvious in the video that they didnt like her at all. Maybe one day, snapped Watts. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. The grew up in a low class family. All their old friends have said the same thing. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. At the very least, he may have felt theyd be inclined to forgive him given their own difficulties with Shanann, and certainly, Ronnie Watts has already told the media, If hes guilty, I can live with that.. How could they be this stupid. Due to lack of knowledge. That also echoes what Chris Watts said on the porch when a reporter mentioned a search dog going into the house, and the sidewalk crawling with cops and police cruisers. The incident at Cindis house where she exposed CeCe To nuts happened in July not on June 9th. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. Chris Watts 2012 Speech on Communication Speech, Relationship Deterioration and Repair; Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Lake, North Carolina. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. I like your take on this. So Cindy Watts didn't attend her son's wedding. Only someone who is mad could possibly kill his whole family. He's also said it over the phone to people. There is right, and there is wrong. I get she had a problem and took offense to moms attitude toward the nut access, but to go on a Facebook rant was a bit much, imo. Estranged from the family? During the lengthy sit-down, distraught mother Cindy pleaded to know more about what transpired during the grizzly triple murder but was quickly shot down by Watts. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? Celestes nut allergy was a bunch of BS. THAT DOES NOT GIVE CHRIS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID. and our Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. I want him to plead not guilty to the children, she said. You are the first person who has suggested this. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. Unless you have ever been victimized by a narcissistic toxic family, you really have no understanding of the level of dysfunction happening to the targeted victim. Im sure there are many more Secrets on the Rzucek family.. .. side It was hard on his father when he CHRIS left because his father was used to him CHRIS always being around. Border agent dies and two others are gravely injured following a shootout in major drug smuggling corridor off the coast of Puerto Rico: Suspected Mystery surrounds Chinese jet crash a month after all 132 people were killed as report reveals NO faults in the plane, NO suspicions about Delco court covers for Judge Whelan in criminal case: His testimony raises a question, Prosecutor: Delco Judge Capuzzi locked public out of courtroom for fake news trial. It falls apart even further when you consider he didnt only kill Shanann, but terminated the pregnancy and also killed his own children. Or send them back to Shanaan. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. What pictures did you use for the service? Watts asked his mother during the explosive one-on-one two-hour special. His actions will never be justified. Id fightbut then you ask yourself, Would a normal person putdispose of the bodies the way that he did? It scares me to death [speaking softly, nodding] that he could have done all of this. A pregnant woman in her 15th week, just getting home at 1:48am from a business trip, who was already in the separation process, isnt going to snap and kill her two children. Shanann got the wrath that was really meant for Mom-Watts. Cant understand how they just couldnt focus on being nice with each other for a few hours, just for the children. Was Shannan a saint? Does anyone know if shes ever made any kind of public statement or opinion? Maybe they are a bunch of people with personality disorders, but even people with personality disorders have their reasons to do bad stuff and even justify every bad stuff they do. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children., I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan.. That likely would have changed everything. I mean that is so simple minded and silly. Jump to Sections of this page The one with Bella at the splash pad where she was wrapped up in a blanket. She went to North Carolina for six weeks at the very end of June. They were heavy drinkers. Interesting hypothesis, but its pretty clear from the interview/interrogation that Chris only starts talking about that scenario *after* the investigator floats the question about ShanAnn doing something to the girls as the reason why he killed her. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? Over time her actions ,her treatment of him, his parents. Having said that, for CW parents to feel so strongly about Shannan that they didnt attend their own sons wedding then there must be a whole lot more to this that we dont know or understand. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I dont know what it is yet, you are someone I always felt had a pure heart, a good soul, no-one, no-one, could ever say anything bad about you. I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. Both were high powered women, both were the in charge types, both married passive, easy going guys who seemed to be OK with doing things their wifes way. I just read that: As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. He decided not to create waves. The prison exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga. The WCNC reporter says a word in response to the no-show by the Watts family at their sons wedding. I think the pro Shanann camp needs to remember that discussing WHY Chris killed Shanann is NOT justifying what he did. Also apparently Frankie receiving death threats and some really nasty messages.. No, thats not quite right either. Same year Shanann and Chris filed for bankruptcy. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. And I think years of being just the nice guy to go along with everything and being bossed around and feeling so small like he didnt really have a say, Im sure had a profound impact on his mental health coupled with the fact that he allegedly wasnt excited to have another baby and didnt really love being a dad as much as he claimed. What he did was deplorable and disgusting beyond belief. Powered by BlueHost . She had many faults within herself. I carry grudges. Privacy Policy. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it. she literally works at a hospital so its very possible that she has close connections to patients that may be prescribed it or it may just be easy for her to get her hands on. Yet another Watts fan club rumor. I mean, this was planned in advance. She even printed a special t-shirt for him to wear on Fathers Day, and took a picture of him wearing it. But Cindy seems to have been quite down to Earth, simple and practical, and Shanann none of those things. And the whole time Shannan is dealing with this, Chris is cuddling back home with another woman. As we now know, it took the Watts parents all of two seconds to give Chris a pass for killing Shannan. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. She suffered enough. For my part, Im interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, and the characters involved. THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. Shanann was still in Colorado in June. Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister JAMIE. Chris sister, Jaime (at least its likely his sister), addresses briefly some of these very topics in a forum a couple months ago. Didnt attend what? That only happens when youre not serious about the wedding. She probably didnt want to be part of the wedding party to begin with. Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister (JAMIE). These people dont even mention the precious children that their son killed WORST GRANDPARENTS EVERRRRRR!!!! The nut incident. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. One of the younger kids at the house pulled out some ice cream. Let me end with saying that I dont know what happened that night, but I think that its a tragedy we can all expect to learn from. Part 5 is here: https://youtu.be/sjHc-ijQjXUWhy is it that Chris Watts's parents (Cindy Watts and Ronnie Watts) and and his sister (Jamie Lyn Williams) treat. Charged with misdemeanor child abuse. Shanann just stepped in his moms shoes and his mom, like any toxic mother-in-law, was threatened, and didnt go to their wedding. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. These cookies do not store any personal information. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. A mother not attending her sons wedding is HUGE. I think that Shannan tried to make things work while Cindy spent her time trying to show Chris that Shannan wasnt good enough. No damn way. You were made for something else. Chris Watts's prison girlfriend is Anna Nowak, who currently lives in Wisconsin, where Chris Watts is serving his sentence. I dont think shes fighting because she feels hes innocent. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. I think he hated Shanann at the moment he killed her. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. Ronnie and Chris seemed to get this yet it ate away at something inside them so much they both resorted to extreme measures to ultimately cope: Ronnie cocaine and Chris murder. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. They appeared to be walking through an open mall cafes, shops the sun was setting. We also know on June 9th, Shanann had a massive meltdown at Cindy Watts home, an event that occurred plumb in the middle between Mothers Day and Fathers Day. Didnt Shanann say a few times that Colorado meant a drama-free life? Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. Copyright 2015 - 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. She made Chris into what he is today, a monster. Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? I wish I could ask you more, Cindy murmured. That probably did not help the situation in any way. There isnt a book. Shanann also posted a picture of Ronnie Watts on Fathers Day and paid tribute to her husband for being a great dad. But to just not send them? These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. If all this has been brewing since the time of their wedding and even before then, you have to wonder whether the move to Colorado was a way to get away from it all. You, me, Ronnie, Jamie, all of us will get through this together, because we love you so much, Cindy Watts whimpered. 2022 Circle of Friends Donors . In Touch Weekly is part of the a360media Entertainment Group.Copyright a360media 2023. I think its the most reasonable one on here. Locked post. This non buying of nut free food really upset Shanann. I heard the same theory on Websleuths that Chris Watts was actually murdering his mother. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. and our If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. Frankie William Rzucek And he knows he is being recorded. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think.. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ Okay? Her version is a very twisted version. Did you watch Chris Watts sentencing hearing? o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Her reaction I think was justified in that her daughter could have died, but then she told Chris that he wasnt ALLOWED to talk to his family. The Watts Family Tapes will premier onFacebook Live Oct. 23 at no cost. Chris Watts, 35, has revealed details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bomb I treat her like I do my daughter. Shananns brother cared about everybody, saying he thought he had a brother, but Chriss mother cared more about making excuses for him than what he did, Shananns brother Frankie was charged with child abuse in 2015 or 2016. oh, of course. She was human and had flaws just like all of us. Not sure the outcome. Do you hear yourself? I feel so sad for her family, they dont deserve this, Shanann was NOTHING like his mother. He dumped their bodies like garbage. Thats what regular folks do. What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? Happy Thanksgiving 2017: Shanann Watts makes mini cannolis. Everyone would be so sad for him that his family were gone and so pleased that he went on to find a new woman (Vomit). Thank you! Blocking them on Facebook, refusing to come to Celestes birthday, sending her gift to Colorado rather than sending it over to her birthday party. He is where he belongs and will die there. Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? He experienced freedom while they were gone, and when they got back, he was probably overtaken by resentment that they stood between him and the mistress. Chris Watts, on the other hand, killed his pregnant wife AND his two living children. That had nothing to do with it. I do think it was horrible that they didnt go to the wedding. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Expect a lot of aggression and animosity from the Shanann camp. Bullshit. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. On the one hand he had his wife complaining, and on the other, a lover selling him dreams. You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. Weirdly, he thought that quietly disposing of his family would bring less shame than initiating a divorce -which would make him publicly look like the bad guy. This suggests Mothers Day and Fathers Day in 2018, in the Watts home, were hugely significant milestones, particularly with a third baby on the way. Perhaps you could learn more before commenting with over the top emotion. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. Theres nothing to really uncover of why he would have killed his wife! As far as I have read, this video is from when he was in the Colorado prison. CW parents were considered safe and good enough to babysit for up to a fortnight while Cw and Shanann were staying at places like Punta Cana. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. JAMIE was the rebellious child in the family. JAMIE left numerous times after high school and would always move back home. What if his (unconscious) hatred and rage was really meant for his mother? I think you might be spot on. Thats ridiculous . From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. Thats it. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. The Rzucek family are weird as well. He went gray rock very early on in life to deal to cope with his mother. I feel so terrible for the family of Shannon and the children. So this is way more than some Freudian spiel to overcome a supposedly dominant mother. Every time he sees a wedding photo, he remembers it wasnt quite the perfect day the photos suggested it was. The footage shows the 33-year-old buying a . Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If Chris Watts had simmering resentments, then the enmity between his wife and his mother could only have turned on the heat even further. Chris Watts. Or read etc. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_-nUnbIgTU. She looks so peaceful, so solemn.. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. (His defense attorney) shut me down. You say that he killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress, not because he disliked his wife, so did he kill his wife because he liked her then? Just not now. They can go back under their rocks now we have all seen enough. She was far to good for them. Although she deleted her account shortly after posting these comments, I do believe this was likely Jaime Williams attempting to defend her brothers character and reputation. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. By boycotting the wedding, CWs family not only rejected ShanAnn herself, but they rejected her entire family as well. I couldnt be on his or his familys side. Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up.
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