Thread starter 7777777s; Start date Oct 24, 2020; Forums. Those present at the show noted the idol's perfectly symmetrical face, which. And it's not the only instance he's done this, I've noticed this change in his body language since the end of 2018. But what I find funny is Taehyung seems to give some people the impression of being stuck up or having let the fame/successget to his head (I've heard quite a few people say that), so its kinda funny how bh couldwant him to not smile/have this hard/not impressed face/image which can easilymake people think hes cocky or full of himself which obviouslyisn't good and can easily turn people off. She wrote that the "alteration of Asian American women of facial features is less of a transforming process, and more of a normalizing one, "to allow them to fit in with their Western peers. Lets meet surely after the resurrection. ", He turns to me. Six Bomb's record company, Pacemaker Entertainment, spent an estimated 100 million South Korean Won (about $93,000) on the stunt. K-pop Idols Who Underwent Plastic Surgery, According to Netizens Netizens claim that aside from his nose and eyes, Kai's sexy lips were also done. When people do it here, they update their will first in case of emergency." I often see people who need revisions -- and a doctor in another country might end up costing you more if you have any issues. I don't think plastic surgery is a bad thing.". One overlooks Central Park, with baroque style fireplaces and a marbled floor. K-pop group Girls' Generation performing in Seoul (Jo Yong-Hak/Reuters. "I always try to copy the natural look, give face the ideal shape it should have been born with," he said. The stress on aesthetics-by-knife is part of a strange cultural mix of the modern and the ancient in South Korea today. #95. The surgery quickly caught on. None of this was so when the American plastic surgeon Dr. Ralph Millard arrived in South Korea in 1954. None of these operations, however, are as radical as what she wants to do next. Obviously you need a good doctor but you can't drastically change one thing on your face to the totally different shape/size/whatever and expect your face to look unclockable, I guess. "We all wanted to get some surgeries done to look prettier and thought, 'Why not perform a song about it instead of trying to conceal it?'" 5 1 1 azeenan. "There are plenty of other ways to change the jaw without surgery," he said. "I perform corrective jaw surgery," he says. I'm all for plastic surgery if it makes the idols feel more confident and look objectively better. "Within a week it will be much smaller. Min Hyorin revealed once she actually had surgery on her eyelids and I was surprised because unlike most surgery on eyes that end to basically make the eyelids twins, hers are actually quite different to each other and was following each of her eye shapes rather than trying to copy the right to the left. So Ill say she looks hot and nothing Uncanny-Valley-like. Two decades later, much of her research is still highly relevant. I don't really pay any attention to them so I can't give a response. Surgery for beautification purposes worked its way into mainstream culture. . She is here for fillers, hyaluronic acid, and calcium extracts that will sit inside her face and reshape her profile. I know most of the procedures happen before debut and then some of them touch up later throughout the years, but the fact that a 15 year old with passion for singing and dancing was probably told that they were too ugly to be an idol and have to do surgery to get their face "fixed" is just really sad. Like once you hit 30 you pretty much ruined your face because of this trend and would need to get fillers due to the excess sagging. She looks even more beautiful. When fan complimented her eyes and said they/she is pretty. Their fame gets even bigger even when they aren't promoting. "I hope to achieve a slimmer, oval face from the procedure," Kim says. "If she likes this, we might do the real thing next time. Alleybux. "Miryo was also probably very conscious about her looks and felt a desire to become more beautiful. ", Doron Ringler, chief resident at the maxillofacial oral surgery unit of Columbia College of Dental Medicine, has other ideas. The reaction has been a largely negative one, with many fans suggesting that the money would have been better spent on Six Bomb's production quality rather than its members' appearances. What she didn't expect was the fortuneteller calling her out for getting surgery. Millard's reasoning was that creating a more Western look would help Asians assimilate better into an emerging international economy. What is a thread lift? She has some hope for change in Korean beauty -- but it's not what you might think. 70. * :. Kewbrah. ", This perspective ties into what Dr. Eugenia Kaw calls the "self-racism subtext." Seonghee giggles and hides behind her long bangs. I just wish someone told all these idols(who were urged to get work done) that they were beautiful and lovely when they were young. California-born Kim has already undergone two procedures: a nose job and double eyelid surgery. Hyomin has been open about her plastic surgery experience. But the danger and the physical pain -- and the possible confusion of seeing a totally different person in the mirror -- is seen as a small price to pay by many Korean American women. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Out of the seven girls I spoke with, only one had even been to the capital. Plastic Surgery Thread #4 Anonymous 02/12/2023 (Sun) 04:01:10 No. Its first clientele were Korean prostitutes who were trying to appeal to American soldiers. Like once you hit 30 you pretty much ruined your face because of this trend and would need to get fillers due to the excess sagging. I loved reading all the analysis and realizing even the most naturally beautiful hailed idols possibly got tweaks and fillers to enhance their looks. New. enhancement; western; changes; plastic surgery; japan; south korea; . The V-line shape gives the face a certain fragility, and its childlike appeal has won Kim over. Do youthink his change is purely just a different image or how he actually can be now? Stayc Yoon comes to mind currently for the best example. When he passed other idols, he lowered his head and walked by looking visibly tense. Singer and rapper JooE is the face of six-member girl group Momoland, which was formed during the 2016 reality survival show,Finding Momoland. Add flight ticket ($1200) and accommodations ($700) food ($200), and misc / transit ($100). : Hearing Restoration Surgery Live-Tweeted. Seoul has become the unofficial plastic surgery capital of the world, with as many as one in three South Korean women thought to have gone under the knife, according to The New Yorker. "Strangely, we can still recognize the face she had before," one pleasantly surprised fan said (via Koreaboo). She did rotation cut, nose, and eye.". Edited once, last by evo-evolution (Apr 4th 2021). This includes double. The Korea that my parents left in the seventies is vastly different from the Korea that exists today." he asked. Beautiful bone structure and nearly perfect facial aesthetics. But we do see people looking to the consumer market for help in their personal lives. When I compare pictures, it looks to me likeher facial volume has changed. The mad rush to economic growth and wealth will likely weaken as the economy matures. I think we mentioned couple of more things in this thread but I forgot ;; you're right, i forgot for a second rofl. The most common procedure is double eyelid surgery, which creates a more Western-looking eye. Joined Dec 8, 2020 . 29,068. Powered by Invision Community. Remarkably, one in five South Korean women has had some form of cosmetic surgery, compared to around one in 20 in the U.S., according to the International Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. she asks the doctor. [or promoting surgery i guess] this mostly came from some1 on [another forum] saying txt looks plastic [thread about txt vs dream visuals] so i compared predebut to recent and was shocked tbh only did taehyun cause got lazy xD tbh further along his career he goes more predebut photos will realise and more be people will guess if they have or . But his nose is an immediate tell of plastic surgery to where you'll know he's had it done when you see him for the first time. How do you tell the difference between buccal fat removal and masseter/jaw botox? If you get one bad nose job, then you could potentially look more "fake" than someone who's had multiple procedures. (If you look carefully it looks like there's something on her forehead), I think she did it before the PD48, because in some predebut photos her forehead looks round (? Based off these pics (tho they may be filtered/edited) I'm wondering if Cravity's Woobin shaved his jaw. Parts of the jawbone may be removed and the remaining jaw slid backwards or forwards, depending on the agreed-upon outcome. Maybe people here will disagree with me, and that's ok, it's a difference in views and morals. So when you change one, and not touch others it creates a weird look where something that shouldn't be there is well, there. The series (in which celebsare paired up and have to pretend to be married couples while taking on various challenges together) has seen its fair share of drama, and Yewon's episode is memorable for one big reveal. Weigh that through an economic framework, and it's what you're seeing in Korea today. They all still look good (and looked good before also). Sana is pretty much on the natural side. Women were expected to enhance rather than alter their physical beings. No it doesn't it's very subtle but theirs certainly a reduce in width and her bridge has become way more predominate, it might be filler tbf so instead of removing they've just raised the bridge? Sign up for a new account in our community. "In Korea, eyelid surgery is regarded as a gift from parents to congratulate graduation from high school to university," a Gangnam-based plastic surgeon told Business Insider. Joohoney . "Igot double eyelid surgery and a nose job,"the idol said (via KPopHerald). K-pop culture -- think "Gangnam Style" -- and its look have spread across East Asia and into the Asian community in the United States. Miss 1960's face is full, her nose is flat, and her eyes are small. "Is it going to stay this big?" Foothill Ranch . Children are considered an embodiment and reflection of their parents' status, and to this end they are shaped and molded -- through intense schooling, but also through surgery to be the best they can be. Dr. David Nguyen specializes in Plastic Surgery of the Breast, Body, and Face, including Breast Augmentation, Breast Lift (Mastopexy), Tummy Tucks, Liposuction, Mommy Makeovers, and Facelifts. "A lot of people ask me if I got plastic surgery after debut," she said (via KpopRants). The New York native had a hard time. I'd like to debate the many noses of Lee Jong suk . Every Plastic Surgery Thread in a Nutshell, Why do 3rd/4th Gen stans like to go like "who are these old groups they made no impact I don't know them", Tzuyu is one of the most demanded face for plastic surgery in japan. Do you guys see any other differences? ", These two procedures have led to questions of whether Korean women were trying to look Western. "There are some great surgeons for this abroad," said Spiegel. More injections follow. ), You areliterally seeing the outlines of an implant, i think park bom might have gotten some work done, i've noticed a trend towards idols being skinnier than usual and tbh it all points back to starship and wonyoung. I am wondering who in Kpop actually has a damn good surgery done in your opinion? I'm pretty sure his parents both had a mixture of European and African ancestry which in the U.S. historically means that you're just designated "Black." That's really interesting and I definitely agree with the BH being much moredeliberate and strategic than people think. He doesn't smile or look like he's enjoying any of their events. This February, cabin crew for Korean Airlines participated in makeup training, a mandatory requirement for all new stewardesses. "This is a barren area. Celebrities go to a lot of different PS clinics. A mini face lift wouldnt do her any good either since she isnt in the criteria for one. ", Hailey Kim is still saving up for her operation, and sees no reason not to go through with it. "It's okay, I'm not an idol group member.". ~ . You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. These entry points are usually invisible after a few days. Her nose bridge seems significantly higher compared to her produce 101 days. But it really annoys me when fans insist and get super defensive when someone hints that their fave might have done some even if its obvious they did. Families embrace traditional routines such as dining and living together, but equally encourage their children to work 18 hour days at school. TheBucheon-born idol's agency approached her about getting a nose job after she made her debut with the group, but the trouble was, she'd already had one. "I'm all about creating a more harmonious look to the face," he told me. : *. . "Our job requires us to give joy and entertain a lot of people, it's impossible to do that if you're not pretty," she said during her appearance on XO Quiz (via AllKpop). Quite a few have very obvious facial changes and there's a lot of unfortunate results. "The Brown Eyed Girls wasn't so attractive at the time of their debut," he said bluntly. "A small percentage of patients have some form of relapse, so it's important to monitor them.". Her nose turns crimson as the syringe enters it, and Dr. Kang taps the top of the bridge. But you can see that he is a totally different person now, at least in front of the cameras, and that just rubs me the wrong way. I'm relievedhe decided to keep his unique and entrancing eyes. "It was never mentioned when I did my research at all," she said. Newer groups like TXT, Enhypen, and Aespa have members with very obvious plastic surgeries. Dr. Kaw is unfamiliar with V-line surgery. "Standards are far harsher than Western countries.". The girls got "almost every kind of surgery that could be done on a face," as well as breast enlargements, according to their manager, Kim Il Woong. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Age: 53 Posts: 909 Rep Power: 1269. Inspired by pop stars and encouraged by culture that equates success with physical beauty, the "self-racism subtext" of buying an ideal Korean face. A fashion student at NYU, Lee wants a more feminine face. the ones that do the "ranking kpop idols according . For example: Stayc Yoon comes to mind currently for the best example. SOUTH COAST PLASTIC SURGERY, LLC Sep 2022 - Present 8 months. Before the K-pop boom, Korean youth already were being brought up on a diet of surgery, so the idea of an operation to look like their favorite starlet is socially acceptable. According to Koogle TV, Yewon then confirmed this to be true. Rip at me having round face and sharp nose . ;-; All features can work tbh, you just have to find a godly doctor, Well, the shape isn't the only thing that matters, I was just trying to give an example that facial featuresand proportions haveto be in harmony with each other. Part of his role was to help treat Korean accident and burn victims. Also just because I keep having this thought in my head, but I feel so sad for the kpop idols younger than 2018 years old that have gottennumerous things done to their face. ryujin was praised for her healthy/thick body and now her and yuna are stick thin. Also a lot of idols have been getting lip fillers, some of them had thin paper lips and now comeback looking like kylie Jenner, Theyve actually come forward saying it was a really bad photo the people that posted it, these are also her Predebut picture, 844E16A3-950A-4435-9730-EA3553DCAD54.jpeg4AD358F2-5F63-49B3-99C3-79FA02B70B4B.jpeg, And winter only got a nose job, her cheeks are still very full and chubby, and all kpop idols get double eyelid surgery, 67F232A5-3153-4143-95B4-EA0DC95F77B5.jpeg, Sana from twice got cheeksbones done/ facelift / jaw, 17DAC1E4-9904-4999-A07F-8EA8959F903F.jpeg, Nayeon got a nose job and eyes done / jaw, 65B97EFD-B739-4517-95D3-72F481C31319.jpeg, D6D9E4AE-DCEB-4505-B1CE-E93D42B308FE.jpeg, Momo got nose done and cheekbones done too, E1B044B1-7276-487F-87B8-6226BD45E472.jpeg, FCF4EC16-45C7-443E-9386-B93D99AFCBD2.jpeg, Tzuyu got eyes done/ a lot of enhancements and lip fillers she has the same nose though Its a make up trick. But I'm thinking she might have gotten botox because her masseter muscle looks relatively bigger in that first photo. She had a similar eye type to Yooa (previously) which is big eyes with no crease, she got double eyelids done in my view, She had a tiny crease? By 34,923 788 154. "I found out about this when I was in elementary school.". These claims were later brought into question when Uee sued a plastic surgeon for using images of her thighs and stomach without her permission on a blog. Maybe this is supposed to be normal in the entertainment industry, but it really feels bizarre to me to find out that minors were severely encouraged or maybe even forced to get plastic surgery if they ever wanted to see their dream come true. Walk-ins are held every weekend in both South Korea and the United States, according to Seoul Beats, with some of the industry's top companies opening offices in New York to scope out potential talent Stateside. The same can't be said for the V-line surgery, but not everyone is aware of that. Yet looking at her pictures, seems that her dr was only accentuating her nose that fits her whole face instead of just have her nose high. Kim recently read about a relatively new cosmetic procedure that is colloquially known as V-line surgery. I watch some of his fancams at award shows and just his videos in general, and if there's something I noticed is that in a particular fancam BTS were walking by idols at the 2019 KBS Song Festival and I noticed V would keep his head/chin pointed up till he was close to other idols. By using Botox, it hypertrophies, minimizing the look of the jaw. threads like this are a bad and pointless idea. Uee (who is now a graduate member of After School) was asked about surgery when she appeared on Sang Sang Plus. Like bhie they do be having the same sharp handsome jaws, these are all different members but same nose. "Just because a doctor is Korean, it doesn't mean they have the experience a doctor in Korea would have, nor the similar advanced techniques.". Sorry to butt in, but as a V fan I can see where you're coming from about his body language. I honestly can't think of any other groups that are still such a hot topic when they aren't promoting a song or have a comeback. I see an almost Karina-like chin and no visible mandible angle. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! According to Uee, the doctor was never granted permission to use those images, and the court agreed, hitting him with a fine of about $2,800. Hwasa . This year, there were more than the usual numbers in the room. Race changing plastic surgery is Prince. My wants may be drastic, but I'm not trying to look exactly like someone else. "Didn't you already get [surgery] done?" If you didn't know them, there's noobviously enhanced featuresto clue you in to them having had work done--you probably wouldn't even question it. OMG Winter from Aespa.. Amazing surgery but holy crap that what she looked like??? We'll see Asian American identities merging with Asia proper, but it will be different. Unhappiness with appearance is de rigueur for many teenagers, but for Korean Americans perhaps more than any other ethnic group, this is increasingly being addressed with a scalpel. "There are strict rules about women's appearance in the workplace," Turnbull said. It's also extremely painful. Most members of the group (which currently has nine active members as well as one inactive one and three former) are rumored to have undergone a cosmetic procedure of some kind. Her research paper, "Medicalization of Racial Features,"focused on how Asian Americans viewed themselves, and how they were influenced by cultural perspectives. However, a lot of his followers defended him. I feel bad for clogging up the thread with these posts when they're kind of irrelevant to plastic surgery lmao. (Excuse my messy illustrations lol). Because of this, parents let children have surgery even younger so it looks more natural as they mature." Kpop - Worst Outfits. They say they didn't do any surgery, but I know they did. 13 2 TwentyTwoH. The singer was asked about her comments (and the aftermath of them) on Radio Star, revealing that she accidentally caused a media storm. I know some people will think I'm a fangirl desperately trying to defend her fave, but I truly don't think he is arrogant or all that confident like he appears. The two operations are so common that they are not called surgery, but a "procedure. And why shouldn't she? The city even has an "Improvement Quarter" where there are reportedly as many as 500 clinics within a square mile offering a variety of procedures at increasingly affordable prices. Kpop fans also shouldn't compare and degrade themselves with comparisons to kpop idols because there are other things peoplecan improve other than physical appearance. Hwang has been happy to dish the dirt on his plastic surgery, openly discussing his nose job. Step 4 - See the results As a stan we should realise they clearly have way more work done than the average person, but they are also on camera way more than the average person, Well most idols get ps in their teen years. He is probably one of the few idols no one would guess had plastic surgery at first glance. This popularity -- and the value placed on the surgery behind the stars -- has meant that South Korea is now synonymous with medical tourism, and has established itself as an epicenter for all sorts of cosmetic surgery. "If I pick my nose, I'm also picking my ear," she joked. "Who cares," the singer said. The good qualities within will always shine regardless of how someone looks or if they fit the beauty standards or not. In one of the videos, the girls dance around an operating room singing about the joys of surgery as they reveal their new faces. "Good surgery is like a vase," he said. We see them every week for six weeks, and then every three to five months for a year or two." But if you inspect Asian celebrities, they all have small jaws and cheekbones. 16-year-old Chae Jeongwon, a schoolgirl at Gumi High School, has grown up with the understanding that she'll have double eyelid surgery one day. What is considered a heavy-duty operation in the maxillofacial dental world is considered a common everyday, operation in Korea, and the altered face shape has created a distance between the women and their ethnic background. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy. . Most eyelid surgeries really looked like it has been tweaked but hers looks natural. Job applicants, for example, are commonly required to submit a headshot with their resume. The singer-actress was paired with Chinese-Canadian starHenry Lau (a member of Super Junior-M, the Chinese sub-unit of South Korean boy band Super Junior)on the show. "So many people have plastic surgeries in Gangnam, but famous doctors are limited. V was my bias until 2017 because I just LOVED that youthful dorky personality (does anyone remember the term 4D?) It gives the impression that he's just done and doesn't want to be there. Such decisions by the surgeon shows skills and art that just makes something look natural, which is easier said than done. Ros . , i mean it depends on the person of course, a lot of idols dont have super straight jawlines either, and no doubt some of them get surgery for that, but in general, lean adult men usually have pretty defined jawlines, DIA CHAEYEON. Seonghee is practicing English as part of her school curriculum, and she motions to different parts of her face as she speaks. Kim recently read about a relatively new cosmetic procedure that is colloquially known as V-line surgery. Plastic surgery has helped millions feel beautiful about themselves and that's amazing, but I worry about people . SHINeer; Feb 27, 2021; 6 Replies; 1K Views; Mar 2, 2021. 14 9 SHINeer. The NHRC argued this by saying that "no other Korean airlines compel female flight crew to wear skirts, so the regulations could be viewed as excessive. She went from one of Kpop's most unique visuals and just about the prettiest critter . how did you include so many idols in your sig? ", As James Turnbull, a writer and lecturer in Korea on feminism and pop culture, noted, "The idea here is that you like the appearance of the 'idols' and you should try and look like them.". The only thing that she did get is veneers which is a cosmetic surgery. I agree with you, Minnie definitely got something done to her nose bridge; it looks higher. Plastic surgery has helped millions feel beautiful about themselves and that's amazing, but I worry about people who don't how much is enough and when to stop. It is also performed and recommended in case of . It is pop culture that really introduces the idea of how transformation of your body can lead to success; maybe you too can become a pop star. #12. However, what was interesting is that over the years his confidence has changed(to be honest so much of his value as an idol has been placed in his visuals I'm not surprised). The ideal nose type in Korea has a straight, pronounced bridge, with a small, rounded tip. Its first clientele were Korean prostitutes, who were trying to appeal to American soldiers. External Content The country is the most wired in the world, with the highest rate of smartphone usage -- 67 percent -- and 95 percent of Korean homes having internet access. "Eyes there were slanty and sleepy." /ourguy/ edition discuss PS and cosmetic procedures in kpop here. Clinics in Korea offer the V-line operation to medical tourists and say they only need "stay a week" to see the procedure out. "After a week all the postoperative care is ended and there is nothing that I can help them with. Jaw shaves are psychotic. The New York native hada hard time adjusting to life in Korea after making the move from the States, largely because the "extremely polite culture" felt completely alien to her. Open land, that's where I'm at. : *. . So if the nose, the center of the face, is off - you can tell something's wrong immediately. We often think of America and us flowing in one direction -- and culturally dominant in this direction. She confirmed that she feels "regret" over her double eyelid surgery when she appeared on Happy Together, but she's only got good things to say about her breast implants. Watch Treasure's Horror Web Drama, The Mysterious Class for clear skin. ", The first cosmetic surgery clinic opened in Korea in 1961, and year on year, the numbers of women undergoing cosmetic operations doubled and then tripled. Uncanny valley almost. This includes double. "It's a present for senior schoolgirls," she wrote, in an essay about Korean surgery. Joined Dec 19, 2019 Messages 4,513 Reactions . This is obviously not related to PS so sorry for flooding the threadbut I've been thinking the same thing for the past 3-4 years. ", Schoolgirl Kang NaYeon is still unsure about having surgery in Korea. However, K-pop auditions typically take place behind closed doors. Silhouette Plastic Surgery Institute Oct 2005 - Apr 2010 4 years 7 months. She has kept the same features throughout her debut especially the hump on her nose and her jaw - cheek ratio. Miss Lee looks into a hand mirror. I wouldnt recommend buccal fat removal though since your cheeks start to sag at 30 years old and get premature ageing in the process. and maybe he just grew out of that image, maybe the fame changed him, we will never know. which could lead to them thinking they have to reach up to those standards to be considered attractive.
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